Babel

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 22 Jun 2007, 02:18

We were discussing Aranofsky's output in comparison to Sexy Beast.

See: 'Moot point'.

Thunder Beer · Post by **Thunder Beer** » 22 Jun 2007, 07:36

This is a Babel thread. It means that Im allowed to babel

judasmuppet · Post by **judasmuppet** » 23 Jun 2007, 04:43

"No! Not this fucking time! No fucking way! No fucking way, no fucking way, no fucking way! You've made me look a right cunt! "

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 23 Jun 2007, 04:48

Thunder";p="889275 wrote:No! Not this fucking time! No fucking way! No fucking way, no fucking way, no fucking way! You've made me look a right cunt!

judasmuppet · Post by **judasmuppet** » 23 Jun 2007, 04:49

That's what I meant

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 23 Jun 2007, 04:51

Mary Hinge · Post by **Mary Hinge** » 23 Jun 2007, 07:24

I must watch Sexy Beast again - awesome flick

As was the Proposition.
21 Grams - meh
Haven't seen Babel
Apolcalypto = made by a Catholic

Thunder Beer · Post by **Thunder Beer** » 23 Jun 2007, 17:25

Nam Tsao";p="889545 wrote:
Thunder";p="889275 wrote:No! Not this fucking time! No fucking way! No fucking way, no fucking way, no fucking way! You've made me look a right cunt!

I hate you!

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 23 Jun 2007, 17:31

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 24 Jun 2007, 02:23

Saw all of it this time. What a pointless film. Beautifully shot, well acted, but very much cut from the same cookie cutter as 21 Grammes, only 21 Grammes was slightly better. The cookie most certainly appears to have crumbled.

This sums the flick up for me:

Well acted and handsomely photographed, but still extraordinarily overpraised and overblown, a middlebrow piece of near-nonsense: the kind of self-conscious arthouse cinema that is custom-tailored and machine-tooled for the dinner-party demographic.

judasmuppet · Post by **judasmuppet** » 24 Jun 2007, 04:28

Well, it is part of a trilogy, so it's going to be made in a similar fashion.

Pointless? As opposed to? I got something out of it, aside from the aesthetic.

That reviewer seems like a real prick. I was interested to see how he rated Crash, which he rated higher than Babel, so fuck him. Show me a film that he gave 5 stars.

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 24 Jun 2007, 09:54

Made in a 'similar fashion'? Facsimile is more appropriate. Unfortunately upon watching Babel after 21 Grammes it's apparent his narrative vehicle/style is nothing more than a gimmick which leaves Babel feeling self congratulatory and sweetly sweet through it's synthetic and insincerity.

21 Grammes saw him tying his shoelace for the first time and he made a nice bow, but sadly Babel saw him tying his laces together, with Babel, he hopped along hoping most people wouldn't notice, and it seems that many didn't.

The review above precisely echoed my thoughts, from the director's self importance, to the suspected target demographic, to the gaping plot problems.

Crash was watchable, as was this, but Crash suffered less through insincerity and gaping plot problems and that is in no way an endorsement for Crash but simply the coup de grace of Babel. The film's direction was dishonest, over glossed, stuffed with pomp and overhyped, where Crash was simply over glossed, and overhyped.

Quite what bearing this fella's five star rated films would have to do with me disliking a film for the same reasons he does escapes me, but here you go - here's a few I knew he'd rate 5 star.

Tokyo Story
Lost In Translation
About Schmidt
Cassablanca
The Ladykillers (original)

Dress Barn · Post by **Dress Barn** » 24 Jun 2007, 10:02

I thought 21 Grammes was lame- A bunch of great acting and great directing around a pretty bland script

That movie he did about the dogs was 50 times better

Eviltoastman · Post by **Eviltoastman** » 24 Jun 2007, 10:13

I agree with the acting. Very good. The written dialogue for 21 Grammes and Babel were both fantastic, but both the narrative and the narrative vehicle are flawed, the latter ruins his previous films through overuse.

Dress Barn · Post by **Dress Barn** » 24 Jun 2007, 10:35

that's cool- the script just didn't move me

judasmuppet · Post by **judasmuppet** » 24 Jun 2007, 11:50

Nam Tsao";p="889734 wrote:Quite what bearing this fella's five star rated films would have to do with me disliking a film for the same reasons he does escapes me, but here you go - here's a few I knew he'd rate 5 star.

It wasn't relevant to your opinions. But good on him for giving something 5 stars.

judasmuppet · Post by **judasmuppet** » 27 Jun 2007, 06:31

Thunder";p="889275 wrote:No! Not this fucking time! No fucking way! No fucking way, no fucking way, no fucking way! You've made me look a right cunt!

I watched "The Work of Director Johnathon Glazer" yesterday, and there was an interview with Winstone, who was threatening to kill the art director from Sexy Beast. He looked at the camera and said "Art Director, you're a cunt."

Regarding other work of his, I found I didn't like much of his music video work, apart from Unkle's "Rabbit in your headlights", and the Nick Cave one was all right. His ad work is pretty awesome though, esp the Guinness ads.

Thunder Beer · Post by **Thunder Beer** » 27 Jun 2007, 16:40

Yes, "Work of director Jonathan Glazer" is the weakest link in that series. I have them all. Gondry and Cunningham owns!

Dress Barn · Post by **Dress Barn** » 27 Jun 2007, 19:41

I got the Glazer one as well- man does it suck