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I don't judge it solely on the homage thing at all. I still find it crap. I reference the homage-angle as me trying to find a redeaming feature, which I still can't do. The fight scenes are surprisingly poor in their execution, and the acting is poor because of the obvious step-by-step direction of Tarantino. You can see it in the mannerisms of the characters, and hear it in the delivery of their lines. I, personally, find that to be a sign of poor direction. I can't see how watching the second part can save that.

Anyone worth a fist full of arseholes is contrary enough to know that any time someone tries the ever-tiring motif of 're-appropriation is a legitimate art form' can suck shit as the resulting piece piece isn't anything more than mindless cinema / art / music / poetry / ghey.

Even my much bandied "jejune pasticcio" is a step up from such unashamed pilphering.

As such, as previously stated, I enjoyed watching 'em once or twice, but I still consider them the most defining point of Tarantino's work, but not in a good way.

Po Mo fucking WANKER.

But Judas, I do think the second is a little better. Though as my gods David and Margret put it years ago, it should have been a single release. It's so easily digestible (unless your pallate is incredibly sensitive) I could have easily swallowed both as a single movie running the same length, in one sitting.

We may as well go out and buy modern Aboriginal artworks

I'll say that I like Jackie Brown better than any other Tarantino movie, though.

Kill Bill was stylish, but seemed really self-conscious to me. A bit try-hard.

I donna give a shit though. It had chicks with katanas in it.

ReverseEngineer";p="784729 wrote:I'll say that I like Jackie Brown better than any other Tarantino movie, though.

Really?
How come?

Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction do it for me.

Jackie Brown has a really bland vibe for me...

Die Zulo Gestalt";p="784751 wrote:Kill Bill was stylish, but seemed really self-conscious to me. A bit try-hard.

I know what you're getting at.
I don't know if I'd say try hard though.

It's not as if it ever took itself too seriously...

Die Zulo Gestalt";p="784751 wrote: I donna give a shit though. It had chicks with katanas in it.

Hell yeah...

I think it's "kitanas."

I liked Jackie Brown the best as well. It wasn't as over-the-top as Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, etc., but that woman had sass, and that goes far with me. I'd like to have the sass of Jackie.

Die Zulo Gestalt";p="784751 wrote: It had chicks with katanas in it.

Kitanas aren't as sexy as guns. Think about it. When was the last time you saw a woman hike up her skirt and pull a kitana out of her garter belt?

You see, what I like about Tarantino IS his OTT style.
Subtlety doesn't really work for him IMO...

I didn't find "Jackie" that subtle.

Riddled with terrible actors...

I SAID PULL A KITANA OUT OF YOUR SKIRT!

K-A-T-A-N-A, wench.

Maybe "try-hard" was too harsh, in hindsight, coz I was pretty psyched when I first saw it. I loved the characters.

Rado";p="784775 wrote:Riddled with terrible actors...

For real.
Michael Keaton What the fuck??
Talk about a stupid casting decision...

Oh i was talking about Kill Bill...shit except for Michael Madsen...

Die Zulo Gestalt";p="784751 wrote:Kill Bill was stylish, but seemed really self-conscious to me. A bit try-hard.

I donna give a shit though. It had chicks with katanas in it.

And lot's of dead Japs!

*flashback to Iwo Jima...masturbates*

Rado";p="784802 wrote:Oh i was talking about Kill Bill...shit except for Michael Madsen...

Disagree...

You HAVE to agree with me...

Saw the second one for the first time today. I enjoyed it alot more than Vol. 1. Probably because it had more of Michael Madsen's character and with that Pai Mei dude. He was pretty cool with the constant stroking of his beard.
Highly enjoyed the time from when Elle arrives at Budd's trailer to when she gets her other eye plucked out.

"Spoilers"?!?!?!?!?!?!

ReverseEngineer";p="784729 wrote:I'll say that I like Jackie Brown better than any other Tarantino movie, though.

Yes, Its a great movie, and damn underrated too!

But Dogs is the real masterpiece!


I would also like to add to this thread that Kill Bill vol 2 is a great fucking movie!! I also enjoyed vol 1, but its not up there with the second one... Anyway, they work best together!