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Posted: 06 Mar 2007, 16:11
by Eviltoastman
Too sweet, sickly...seems very feminine. Almost a prosthetic beer. Something's not right about it.

Posted: 06 Mar 2007, 16:15
by judasmuppet
I didn't find that about it. I thought it was a bit plain on first taste, but then it's charms took hold, and it made me blush. :oops: << for effect

Posted: 06 Mar 2007, 16:37
by Ruby Juice
It's good.

Posted: 06 Mar 2007, 17:11
by Eviltoastman
It's not good. You just like the taste.

Posted: 06 Mar 2007, 19:15
by Jeff
No. It's good.
Presentation: 33cl custom shorty with a bulbed neck. Best before date: 03/2003. Serve chilled.

Appearance: Cloudy (from escaped yeast) and pale. A grande creamy, chunk head adorns the top and sticks with great stay. The colour and head are perfection incarnate.

Smell: Delicate spice, pepper and clean malt sweetness.

Taste: Smooth and extremely creamy on the palate. A lively carbonation creates a light mouthfeel and crispness. Upfront flavours are bitter and sweet, with a lean on the sweet; distinct fruity malt esters, bold spiciness and rind-like twang that mellows and balances. Finishes slightly grain/dry with some residual spice and dextrin notes.

Notes: Deceivingly seductive and powerful. It lurs you with mesmerizing eye candy, then as the absolute refresher, then whacks the shite out of you with an 8.5% abv club. It's not called the "Devil" for nothing.

One of the best beers on the face of the Earth. Bow down to this god of beers.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 02:59
by Eviltoastman
I don't think you realise the implications of what you are suggesting. All you can say for certain is that some people like the taste of the beer. There is no inherent goodness to the product. To describe Dubel as delicate is a joke. It has a forceful, almost over perfumed chemical, just because that beer site says it's "good" does not (cannot) make it so.

AMG rates some truly disastrous music as "good", do you also hold them up as a music bible as you do with the beer site? I think not.

I would explain subjectivism to you but that would almost be as insulting you implying ANYTHING is good.

Again, I stand firmly behind the following:
Nam Tsao";p="853555 wrote:It's not good. You just like the taste.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 06:49
by judasmuppet
No, it's good. You just don't like it.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 09:13
by Eviltoastman
Even if I liked it, it still would not be good. Hobbes just called you a cunt.

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 09:20
by judasmuppet
Is this where we engage in hand-to-hand combat?

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 09:42
by Eviltoastman
You've not even started the training mission. What makes you think you can just skip to the end boss?

Posted: 07 Mar 2007, 09:53
by judasmuppet
I don't have time for this. Just put me through to someone who can answer my questions.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 05:44
by fatDmass
I only drink German lager too pretentious to name

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 07:51
by Jeff
Nam Tsao";p="853675 wrote:I don't think you realise the implications of what you are suggesting. All you can say for certain is that some people like the taste of the beer. There is no inherent goodness to the product. To describe Dubel as delicate is a joke. It has a forceful, almost over perfumed chemical, just because that beer site says it's "good" does not (cannot) make it so.

AMG rates some truly disastrous music as "good", do you also hold them up as a music bible as you do with the beer site? I think not.

I would explain subjectivism to you but that would almost be as insulting you implying ANYTHING is good.

Again, I stand firmly behind the following:
Nam Tsao";p="853555 wrote:It's not good. You just like the taste.
I should clarify that 896 people have reviewed the beer, and it's cumulative score is the 77th highest in their entire database, which includes god knows how many thousands of beers.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 12:11
by Jeff
Additionally, there are plenty of NON-SUBJECTIVE categories that beer is rated on: http://www.bjcp.org/2004_BJCP_Guidelines.pdf

Duvel clearly excels in it's style...

I don't know. I'm not as much of a believer in subjectivity as I once was. It's a massive factor, but it's not the only factor. Duvel is one of those things that's widely considered a "classic" or whatever by the majority of informed individuals... the fact that you don't like it is understandable, but I think there's enough reason to say that, yes, it is a very good beer.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 14:33
by Eviltoastman
Surely you could have just thought about all that without posting it...or do your lips move while you read too? It certainly could not have been for my benefit.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 14:35
by Jeff
Ummm... what would be the point of not posting it?

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 14:43
by Eviltoastman
Before I answer that question ask yourself if there was a point in posting it those two comments between my previous two comments. If you come to the correct conclusion then you will realise your question was unnecessary.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 14:47
by Jeff
The point was to explain my views on subjectivity in general and Duvel in specific, which I had not yet done to my satisfaction.

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 16:49
by judasmuppet
I love it when we argue about who's better at the internet! :grin:

Posted: 08 Mar 2007, 16:51
by Ruby Juice
Clayton.

Posted: 17 Mar 2007, 00:10
by Jeff
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Posted: 17 Mar 2007, 22:00
by Jeff
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Didn't take that picture, but did just drink the beer... still not a huge fan of triples... but... they do still get me shitty in a hurry...

Posted: 18 Mar 2007, 23:14
by Ruby Juice
You're pretty shitty most the time, you don't need alcohol for that, baby.


Oh snap.

Posted: 19 Mar 2007, 02:24
by Jeff
You're the reason for my chronically low self-esteem, Shaina. I hope you're happy with yourself. I'm certainly not.

Posted: 19 Mar 2007, 09:11
by judasmuppet
I had one of these the other day:

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Not bad. A bit lacking in body, but should be good for summer.